tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post2014181793929496649..comments2022-08-17T03:42:01.400-07:00Comments on Urban Homestead Diaries: The Proverbial Compost is About to Hit the FanApril Alexanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14284816070903462748noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-22765156928560343082012-03-10T08:39:51.233-08:002012-03-10T08:39:51.233-08:00Freedom Gardens, my rear...they've made a choi...Freedom Gardens, my rear...they've made a choice to become the Monsanto of the homesteading. They couldn't have hurt the movement more if they tried harder. Is greed, pure & simple -- in reality, they want more & more...<br /><br />Erin is absolutely right, their attitudes & behavior are appalling. EXTREMELY anti-urban homesteading, as well as a disgrace & embarassment to the very movement they claim to promote.<br /><br />*I suggest we urban homesteaders begin our own movement: Find & gather all materials distributed from the Dervaes organization we can lay our hands on & mail them en mass back to them! <br /><br />BTW: The Dervaes Institute is registered as a tax exempt 508(c)(1)(a) organization,[7] a status which is limited to "churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches"[8]<br /><br />Apparently the Dervaes family is a non-profit, church-based organization that has no problem fighting for those profits...as well as making them from their homestead -- tax free. How convenient.Homestead Chickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00622427390979150372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-82479580496077173092011-06-25T20:31:00.539-07:002011-06-25T20:31:00.539-07:00I am at a loss to understand where they are coming...I am at a loss to understand where they are coming from. The whole back to the land movement that I have been a part of since the early 70's, has always been about sharing. Sharing information has been a huge part of it. I have gone over their site extensively looking for information. It isn't there. They share little tidbits that are really not that useful. The pictures are all covered with their copyright info. If they put as much effort into sharing and teaching as they do "protecting their copyrights, trademarks and their photos, the whole movement could benefit from their knowledge. Their litigious behavior and general attitude is appalling and very ANTI urban homesteading.Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03394245146898073227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-69504807141044805392011-04-04T20:36:33.585-07:002011-04-04T20:36:33.585-07:00"What do I need? I need only land and water--..."What do I need? I need only land and water--so I can live. Why do other people Want more, and why do other people want me to have more. I want less and less."- Jules Deveraes from his 1973 biography <br /><br />What a hypocrite - The Dervaes shameless greed has made them the Pariahs of urban gardeners everywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-57363993108832957632011-04-04T17:13:46.400-07:002011-04-04T17:13:46.400-07:00What I think bothers me the most about them, is ho...What I think bothers me the most about them, is how they were acting as a victim and yet at the same time continuing to threaten people with trademark infringement. I have been trying to take their blog off of my reading list on blogger but have been unable to, does anyone know how to do this. I don't want to support them at all.JULIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597015941965130337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-86162935486464681872011-04-03T18:57:58.585-07:002011-04-03T18:57:58.585-07:00@Fae - So much good really has come out of this co...@Fae - So much good really has come out of this community that formed because of the bad actions of the Dervaes. I'm looking forward to the day when we won't have to fight against their greed, and we can just talk about our gardens and homesteads in peace...until then we'll continue to do all we can to retain that freedom. Thanks for the comment!April Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14284816070903462748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-86577596419881119262011-04-03T18:53:56.158-07:002011-04-03T18:53:56.158-07:00It's just so sad. Greed is killing this countr...It's just so sad. Greed is killing this country, but I never thought the Dervaes, of all people, would fall victim to it. They were like icons to me! I knew they weren't the first, but they were the first who shared it with the world. The best thing that came out of this whole thing was my meeting all the wonderful urban homesteaders through FB and becoming part of the community. It's brought a lot of people together that would never have met otherwise, and I hope that even when this is over (and they have LOST), we will still be together. I'm glad the Homesteading group was started on FB, because one day, the TBUH group won't be necessary anymore, and we will all have someplace to still be together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-900962394804708252011-04-03T16:07:07.561-07:002011-04-03T16:07:07.561-07:00@ Lisa - Thanks for the correction, sorry about th...@ Lisa - Thanks for the correction, sorry about that. I think I meant to say "for the Freedom Gardens.org." The info was actually from Michael Nolan's "My Earth Garden" blog, and I now have it linked so you can see his post on what they did.April Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14284816070903462748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-53943763150015210502011-04-03T13:22:41.014-07:002011-04-03T13:22:41.014-07:00April, I'm a little confused. You say they pl...April, I'm a little confused. You say they plagiarized from Freedom Gardens.org...but they own the site Freedom Gardens.org. Did they plagiarize another site, perhaps? Or did they take a comment someone else had written there and transfer it to their other pages? I just am trying to figure out how they could plagiarize from themselves. (Trying to keep the facts straight! *heh*)Lisa Lindermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13126487193132896329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-12154659248340587952011-04-03T10:42:07.783-07:002011-04-03T10:42:07.783-07:00@Catoco - I know, that is part of the reason I wro...@Catoco - I know, that is part of the reason I wrote this post in fact. All of their claims of being the victims to the mean nasty blogging community - who according to them aren't "real reporters" and who spew inaccuracies around the internet boil my blood to no end. I guess they're going to have to go after each and every one of us...as well as major news agencies/blogs for defamation of character. Good luck with that one!April Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14284816070903462748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-50112683702766119522011-04-03T10:40:34.768-07:002011-04-03T10:40:34.768-07:00"They might as well be mono-croppers in my bo..."They might as well be mono-croppers in my book." - them's fightin' words. LMAO. Love it.Green Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09696512043437454250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-74590593758165997802011-04-03T07:55:24.991-07:002011-04-03T07:55:24.991-07:00Oh, this is beyond irritating. Every time I read a...Oh, this is beyond irritating. Every time I read about it it just boils me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-69720075307373265922011-04-03T07:25:15.721-07:002011-04-03T07:25:15.721-07:00@April -- LOL... Actually, it's "The Comp...@April -- LOL... Actually, it's "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Urban Homesteading" (coming out in June). Last I spoke to my publisher about it, they were taking the same position as EFF and the publisher of Rachel's book -- the Dervaes' "service mark" (or whatever) is absolutely unenforceable, and would not stand up in court. I'm lucky because my book is being put out by Alpha Books, which is a division of Penguin Publishing. Those guys don't mess around.Sundari Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07518550950344164013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-77543651411168002102011-04-03T07:22:18.473-07:002011-04-03T07:22:18.473-07:00Don't forget to go "like" the author...Don't forget to go "like" the author's page too! And invite friends to also do the same. This is a time that should be happy and exciting for them, and hopefully the more people that like them and buy them book will help alleviate the stress these wonderful people are going through. <br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/HeirloomSkills4SustainableLivingHot Belly Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03091048177310069079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-14959186982713922282011-04-03T07:09:29.402-07:002011-04-03T07:09:29.402-07:00These are FACTS and I think that the fact the Ds a...These are FACTS and I think that the fact the Ds are trying to act like victims makes them even more despicable.Catcocohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12164487461923731482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-82375424046669117142011-04-02T21:26:42.810-07:002011-04-02T21:26:42.810-07:00@Cindy and Matt - I completely agree with you. I ...@Cindy and Matt - I completely agree with you. I think they planned this all along and were just waiting for a publisher to sue. I predict they will go after every publisher.<br /><br />Sundari - Aren't you the writer for "Urban Homesteading for Dummies?" What is your publisher's plan, (if you can share.)April Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14284816070903462748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-48108895809368606152011-04-02T20:59:51.922-07:002011-04-02T20:59:51.922-07:00Not a sucky lawyer... a sucky patriarch.Not a sucky lawyer... a sucky patriarch.Marisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02500751575370471341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-41583584223576167652011-04-02T20:46:07.890-07:002011-04-02T20:46:07.890-07:00Great post. I have always thought there was someth...Great post. I have always thought there was something a bit off with the D's. Grown women still living at home...to each their own.. but I still wonder if the lawyer is leading them down the wrong path. Keep up the great work April!Liisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09106496040776722982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-55426568465601239432011-04-02T20:44:12.870-07:002011-04-02T20:44:12.870-07:00Jessica -- really, it's not a mistake. When th...Jessica -- really, it's not a mistake. When they first learned about the urban homesteading book I was working on I received an email from Anais Dervaes that said, essentially, "you'll be hearing from our lawyer." A week later, I did. This is not a case of the lawyer steering the ship. The Dervaes family knows what they want, and they're using an attorney to try and get it. My father used to be a lawyer, and he said that in his experience shady lawyers and shady clients are attracted to each other.Sundari Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07518550950344164013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-14498995531132156622011-04-02T20:10:05.099-07:002011-04-02T20:10:05.099-07:00Suing people is NOT done by mistake.Suing people is NOT done by mistake.Lynn Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17100290403493429517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-86188982834772656912011-04-02T19:46:43.450-07:002011-04-02T19:46:43.450-07:00The fact that they are now suing is no surprise an...The fact that they are now suing is no surprise and, I believe, it was their intent all along. The only reason to trademark something in the manner they have is for financial gain. They know very well they did not coin, start, solely develop or singularly promulgate 'urban homesteading' etc. This is a money grab and as we are all well aware in America, litigation = $$. I'm sure they were just waiting for, and counting on, someone to oppose them and their ridiculous trademark so they could litigate and make a chunk of money on a settlement; in or out of court. It is unfortunate because they have/had a lot of good knowledge to give to a growing community. Now they are alienating themselves for greed. They might as well be mono-croppers in my book.Cindi and Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08137807404668857031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3662211259268984177.post-16466859768507346762011-04-02T19:26:53.047-07:002011-04-02T19:26:53.047-07:00I'm still trying to figure out a way that it c...I'm still trying to figure out a way that it could all just be a big mistake on their part. Like maybe the just have a really sucky lawyer? I dunno. Such a shame.Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13108730598971640896noreply@blogger.com